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		<title>By: Corporate ethics versus security ethics &#124; IT Security &#124; TechRepublic.com</title>
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		<dc:creator>Corporate ethics versus security ethics &#124; IT Security &#124; TechRepublic.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jun 2010 17:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] short, Corporate Responsibility mandates that all decision makers and agents within public corporations must assume as their first [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Lorrine</title>
		<link>http://sob.apotheon.org/?p=444&#038;cpage=1#comment-396646</link>
		<dc:creator>Lorrine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Jun 2009 21:02:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just came across this post because I have an interest in the legal responsibilities of corporate execs. After the Enron thing, it seemed that CEOs and other officers were being held more financially responsible for their role in reporting financial data. I&#039;ve been talking with a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.mesadefensefirm.com/&quot;&gt;criminal defense lawyer in Mesa, AZ&lt;/a&gt;, and it seems the issue is never black or white. There are laws and financial goals to think of at the same time. However, I always wondered how new rules of executive responsibility would play out in practice. I like what you said about how some of them will see their new duty as being in conflict with their goal to protect intellectual property in the interests of shareholders. This is not trivial, as the primary goals of a corporation are a real force weighing on the execs. I am thinking that, if an exec has to choose between being ethical and being responsible to shareholders, they are going err on the side of the signed check. And they didn&#039;t get where they are without learning to quickly prioritize to be more effective at reaching those goals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just came across this post because I have an interest in the legal responsibilities of corporate execs. After the Enron thing, it seemed that CEOs and other officers were being held more financially responsible for their role in reporting financial data. I've been talking with a <a href="http://www.mesadefensefirm.com/">criminal defense lawyer in Mesa, AZ</a>, and it seems the issue is never black or white. There are laws and financial goals to think of at the same time. However, I always wondered how new rules of executive responsibility would play out in practice. I like what you said about how some of them will see their new duty as being in conflict with their goal to protect intellectual property in the interests of shareholders. This is not trivial, as the primary goals of a corporation are a real force weighing on the execs. I am thinking that, if an exec has to choose between being ethical and being responsible to shareholders, they are going err on the side of the signed check. And they didn't get where they are without learning to quickly prioritize to be more effective at reaching those goals.</p>
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		<title>By: Chad Perrin: SOB &#187; We're asking the wrong questions.</title>
		<link>http://sob.apotheon.org/?p=444&#038;cpage=1#comment-395164</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad Perrin: SOB &#187; We're asking the wrong questions.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 22:32:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] institutionalized, in some sense ethical, requirement for what amounts to sociopathic behavior (see Corporate Responsibility for more detail) as the most powerful entities in the economy. As an organization built around such [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Chad Perrin: SOB &#187; Software design is not architecture.</title>
		<link>http://sob.apotheon.org/?p=444&#038;cpage=1#comment-394760</link>
		<dc:creator>Chad Perrin: SOB &#187; Software design is not architecture.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Feb 2009 22:21:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] distributed completely changes that dynamic, as does the way the software industry (influenced by corporate culture, the environment engendered by strong copyright law, and other social and economic environmental [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Brett Dugan</title>
		<link>http://sob.apotheon.org/?p=444&#038;cpage=1#comment-394680</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Dugan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 06:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corporate law is a complete and utter joke. The principles held by today&#039;s corporations is an insult to the working class who, in most cases, made these giants what they are today.</description>
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		<title>By: 10 security challenges facing closed source software &#124; IT Security &#124; TechRepublic.com</title>
		<link>http://sob.apotheon.org/?p=444&#038;cpage=1#comment-384747</link>
		<dc:creator>10 security challenges facing closed source software &#124; IT Security &#124; TechRepublic.com</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:58:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Corporate responsibility lies with shareholder profits &#8212; not the actual quality of software. This means that any time the ability to generate revenue or reduce costs conflicts with secure coding goals, the secure coding goals are likely to suffer. Considering the value of good programmers who know how to write secure code, that means that severely limiting the money the human resources department is authorized to offer for new hire salaries is normal behavior, which in turn limits the ability to hire the best programmers. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Corporate responsibility lies with shareholder profits &#8212; not the actual quality of software. This means that any time the ability to generate revenue or reduce costs conflicts with secure coding goals, the secure coding goals are likely to suffer. Considering the value of good programmers who know how to write secure code, that means that severely limiting the money the human resources department is authorized to offer for new hire salaries is normal behavior, which in turn limits the ability to hire the best programmers. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: cat</title>
		<link>http://sob.apotheon.org/?p=444&#038;cpage=1#comment-367425</link>
		<dc:creator>cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:56:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chad: I&#039;ll use the &quot;preview&quot; feature more diligently in future... 8-0</description>
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		<title>By: cat</title>
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		<dc:creator>cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jun 2008 14:52:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joseph, that is a matter of fraud. The closest excuse they can come up with is &quot;well, you didn&#039;t cancel it when you came of age...&quot; But they never reveal all terms and conditions, such as what does &quot;I am a citizen of the United States&quot; means on a driver license application.

New York is notorious for being hard on people who try to skip out on jury duty. Many people try to make lame excuses and end up paying fines and serving anyway. Well, I got out clean. The sent me the form and it had one of those jurats on it, so I sent a letter asking them what they meant by &quot;citizen of the United States.&quot; They sent back another form, this time I shot back specifically; is this a term of art, or a term of law. If law, where is it defined. I further stated if it was in a statute, then it didn&#039;t apply to me, because (we all know of course!) statutes are not law, unless of course one IS one of those statutorily defined &quot;citizens.&quot; (there&#039; a HUGE &quot;catch 22&quot; in there...) That status MUST be entirely voluntary, to be in accordance with their own 13th amendment. Notice New York is asking me if I am a citizen of the UNITED STATES!? 

Never heard back from them, that was years ago. But they assume if you are asking for a benefit (SS) you have &quot;opted&quot; in to the whole vile game. But again, no terms and conditions are given, such as you waive all access to article III judicial proceedings. (found in title 28) That, in a nutshell, is actionable fraud.

They know the criminal game they are playing. Lawyers have subverted the entire system and turned it into nothing more than a money making machine. It sure ain&#039;t &quot;government.&quot;

Funny that Chad is D&amp;D fan. I use that game as an example of how the law works. Sure, by their statutes, regulations, federal register etc there&#039;s this &quot;income tax&quot; thingy... but the first question is does any of that even apply to me? (no) When I&#039;m explaining things in front of my white boards I tell listeners that it&#039;s a game of dungeons and dragons, and I sure have violated the rules thereof, but who says I can be compelled to play dungeons and dragons in the first place?

If I can&#039;t do a thing to you, and you cannot do it to me, then nobody has any authority to gather collectively and do it to everybody or anybody.

Really, government behaves no differently than if you suddenly got a letter in te mail stating you are in violation of rule 33(b) of the Mickey Mouse Club, and therefore owe a fine and risk imprisonment. I never joined any Mickey Mouse Club?!?? But people see officious stationery and fear sets in. You can easily tell them to stuff it. Just be ready to call bullshit on &#039;em, should they drag your butt into one of their fake courts. (again they assume you agreed there would be no judiciary... it was right there on the SSN contract.. didn&#039;t you see it?) riiiiight.

I add is an infant competent to enter an agreement or contract? Gee, maybe our educational standards are higher than we think!

What they ply is executive-branch &quot;administrative law,&quot; which are really private, corporate bylaws, (&quot;owned&quot; by the BAR) in a venue in which you are presumed to have waived all inalienable rights.

I&#039;m editing a book on this subject atm.

Check it out, there&#039;s all manner of &quot;court decisions&quot; in which a judge says if you want your rights you have to first know them, then fight-fight-fight to the death for them. One supreme court justice once said along the line of &#039;everybody sitting in a prison in America today volunteered their way in,&#039; meaning DIDN&#039;T know the operative presumption the lawyers have crafted for themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joseph, that is a matter of fraud. The closest excuse they can come up with is "well, you didn't cancel it when you came of age.&nbsp;.&nbsp;." But they never reveal all terms and conditions, such as what does "I am a citizen of the United States" means on a driver license application.</p>
<p>New York is notorious for being hard on people who try to skip out on jury duty. Many people try to make lame excuses and end up paying fines and serving anyway. Well, I got out clean. The sent me the form and it had one of those jurats on it, so I sent a letter asking them what they meant by "citizen of the United States." They sent back another form, this time I shot back specifically; is this a term of art, or a term of law. If law, where is it defined. I further stated if it was in a statute, then it didn't apply to me, because (we all know of course!) statutes are not law, unless of course one IS one of those statutorily defined "citizens." (there' a HUGE "catch 22" in there.&nbsp;.&nbsp;.) That status MUST be entirely voluntary, to be in accordance with their own 13th amendment. Notice New York is asking me if I am a citizen of the UNITED STATES!? </p>
<p>Never heard back from them, that was years ago. But they assume if you are asking for a benefit (SS) you have "opted" in to the whole vile game. But again, no terms and conditions are given, such as you waive all access to article III judicial proceedings. (found in title 28) That, in a nutshell, is actionable fraud.</p>
<p>They know the criminal game they are playing. Lawyers have subverted the entire system and turned it into nothing more than a money making machine. It sure ain't "government."</p>
<p>Funny that Chad is D&amp;D fan. I use that game as an example of how the law works. Sure, by their statutes, regulations, federal register etc there's this "income tax" thingy.&nbsp;.&nbsp;. but the first question is does any of that even apply to me? (no) When I'm explaining things in front of my white boards I tell listeners that it's a game of dungeons and dragons, and I sure have violated the rules thereof, but who says I can be compelled to play dungeons and dragons in the first place?</p>
<p>If I can't do a thing to you, and you cannot do it to me, then nobody has any authority to gather collectively and do it to everybody or anybody.</p>
<p>Really, government behaves no differently than if you suddenly got a letter in te mail stating you are in violation of rule 33(b) of the Mickey Mouse Club, and therefore owe a fine and risk imprisonment. I never joined any Mickey Mouse Club?!?? But people see officious stationery and fear sets in. You can easily tell them to stuff it. Just be ready to call bullshit on 'em, should they drag your butt into one of their fake courts. (again they assume you agreed there would be no judiciary.&nbsp;.&nbsp;. it was right there on the SSN contract.. didn't you see it?) riiiiight.</p>
<p>I add is an infant competent to enter an agreement or contract? Gee, maybe our educational standards are higher than we think!</p>
<p>What they ply is executive-branch "administrative law," which are really private, corporate bylaws, ("owned" by the BAR) in a venue in which you are presumed to have waived all inalienable rights.</p>
<p>I'm editing a book on this subject atm.</p>
<p>Check it out, there's all manner of "court decisions" in which a judge says if you want your rights you have to first know them, then fight-fight-fight to the death for them. One supreme court justice once said along the line of 'everybody sitting in a prison in America today volunteered their way in,' meaning DIDN'T know the operative presumption the lawyers have crafted for themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph A Nagy Jr</title>
		<link>http://sob.apotheon.org/?p=444&#038;cpage=1#comment-367184</link>
		<dc:creator>Joseph A Nagy Jr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cat: I couldn&#039;t agree with you more, unfortunately most of has had a social security number asked for us by our parents.</description>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-06-27 -- Chip&#8217;s Quips</title>
		<link>http://sob.apotheon.org/?p=444&#038;cpage=1#comment-366663</link>
		<dc:creator>links for 2008-06-27 -- Chip&#8217;s Quips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jun 2008 08:35:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Chad Perrin: SOB » Corporate Responsibility We have met the enemy, and they are &#8220;we&#8221;. (tags: corporatism libertarianism) [...]</description>
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		<title>By: cat</title>
		<link>http://sob.apotheon.org/?p=444&#038;cpage=1#comment-366394</link>
		<dc:creator>cat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 13:47:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s all about limited liability. A little know fact is that the corporation known as &quot;government&quot; does not have any authority over the People unless the people volunteer. They assume you have wittingly done this when you asked for a social security number. It&#039;s not viewed as a benefit, it&#039;s limited liability proffered and if you accept it you are duty bound to everything else this corp does, such as income tax and PATRIOT acts.

The limited liability isn&#039;t just that you don&#039;t have to pay for your cat food after you retire, it includes &quot;laws&quot; that dictate what &quot;rights&quot; you have against your &quot;employer.&quot; You give up the inalienable right to contract in exchange for the &quot;government&quot; intervening on your behalf as prescribed by &quot;law.&quot;

It&#039;s an immense fraud. There are no &quot;officers&quot; of government occupying any office created by any constitution. They are &quot;employees&quot; of an incorporated &quot;government.&quot; A judge is not a judge, he&#039;s an administrative magistrate playing judge. The president is not president, he/she is the CEO of said corp. As a result one of the most important guarantees of your liberties is completely absent: separation of powers.

I ran all this by the supreme court, in a tangential way, and they saw fit to call off the dogs. I know people don&#039;t want to believe it, but the &quot;government&quot; you see is actually the most successful criminal enterprise in the history of the planet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It's all about limited liability. A little know fact is that the corporation known as "government" does not have any authority over the People unless the people volunteer. They assume you have wittingly done this when you asked for a social security number. It's not viewed as a benefit, it's limited liability proffered and if you accept it you are duty bound to everything else this corp does, such as income tax and PATRIOT acts.</p>
<p>The limited liability isn't just that you don't have to pay for your cat food after you retire, it includes "laws" that dictate what "rights" you have against your "employer." You give up the inalienable right to contract in exchange for the "government" intervening on your behalf as prescribed by "law."</p>
<p>It's an immense fraud. There are no "officers" of government occupying any office created by any constitution. They are "employees" of an incorporated "government." A judge is not a judge, he's an administrative magistrate playing judge. The president is not president, he/she is the CEO of said corp. As a result one of the most important guarantees of your liberties is completely absent: separation of powers.</p>
<p>I ran all this by the supreme court, in a tangential way, and they saw fit to call off the dogs. I know people don't want to believe it, but the "government" you see is actually the most successful criminal enterprise in the history of the planet.</p>
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		<title>By: links for 2008-06-26 -- Chip&#8217;s Quips</title>
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		<dc:creator>links for 2008-06-26 -- Chip&#8217;s Quips</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Jun 2008 08:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Chad Perrin: SOB » Corporate Responsibility We have met the enemy, and they are &#8220;we&#8221;. (tags: corporatism libertarianism)      Tags: corporatism, dictionary, libertarianism, microsoft, poetry, reference, rhyme, tools, vista, xp [...]</description>
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